Seasons have changed seven times since the first presidential hopefuls announced their candidacies. With 26 days left before the 2008 election, the race for the White House comes to St. Joseph.
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden will headline a Thursday morning event on the Missouri Western State University campus.
The campaign of ticket-topper Barack Obama said Tuesday that the running mate from Delaware would focus on the economy in his St. Joseph stop.
Mr. Biden will speak at the Looney Complex, the first event of the senator’s day. Doors open at 8 a.m., though no time has been announced for the beginning of the program. He has an afternoon event in Liberty, Mo., and an evening speech in Jefferson City. The running mate goes to Springfield, Mo., for an event on Friday.
The St. Joseph “community gathering” is free and open to the public. Tickets are required.
Tickets are available at:
* Campaign for Change Office, 520 Francis St., in St. Joseph.
* Campaign for Change Office, 710 S. Main, in Maryville, Mo.
* Callison Hall, 1222 S. 10th St., in St. Joseph.
At all three locations, hours for picking up tickets today are noon to 9 p.m.
Mr. Biden’s two days of touring points to Missouri’s battleground status and the desire of both tickets to secure the state’s 11 electoral votes.
Last week, the Republican nominee, John McCain, made a Kansas City speech. The Democratic nominee’s wife, Michelle Obama, also campaigned in Kansas City.
Both vice presidential candidates, Mr. Biden and Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, went to St. Louis last Thursday for their only campaign debate.
Mr. Biden had canceled campaign appearances Monday and Tuesday because of his mother-in-law’s death on Sunday.
Ken Newton can be reached at kenn@npgco.com.
How interesting that people can "only" pick up tickets to see Joe Biden from 9am to noon. What does that tell a person about the people attending??? Let's see, 9am to noon equals no job, possibly on the government dole, could be retired, could be on disability, etc. I believe it would have been better for Biden to speak at the casino where he could find the same people during that time period.
Posted by stopstereotyping on October 8, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)So just because its 9-noon the only people that will attend are the unemployed? What about the fact that its on campus so a majority of students will attend, and maybe people who have a different work schedule? Not everyone works the standard 8-5!! And just because they are able to attend doesn't make them unemployed or welfare collecting, get a clue!
Posted by JLK on October 8, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)I believe it says "noon to 9 pm".
Posted by Mr_America on October 8, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)If I wanted to go hear a prater I could go to any bar in town, and enjoy an adult beverage with no need to pick up a ticket from Montee central.
Posted by Rover on October 8, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)When is the last time any presidential hopefuls paid this much attention to rural parts of our state?
I'm thinking maybe...Truman?
Posted by Jude13 on October 8, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)Rover- Don't forget the trip to Saint Joseph made in 2004 by Dick Cheney.
Posted by JWBooth on October 8, 2008 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)I wonder if Joe Biden will deliberately plagiarize other politicians' stories and anecdotes, like he's done before? Maybe he'll just grace us with his wit and humour by telling us a racist joke. Or if we're lucky, the good senator will explain to everyone in St. Joe how much higher his IQ is than ours.
Posted by 10377586 on October 9, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)it does say noon to 9, but it's easier to spew anti democratic things out than be certain of the subject matter. Must have been posted by Cheney.
Posted by ninja_man on October 9, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)what an exciting event for st. joseph!
Posted by ninja_man on October 9, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)JWBooth, why are you so negative? if you don't want to go, don't! no one is forcing you too. you have no idea what the guy will say. and oh yeah, he's so racist that he's running with a black guy??? huh? i believe there's a little racism in everyone.. although it might not necessarily be racism, but that's how society has labeled it.
Posted by azmaggie on October 9, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)sounds like some people just need to stay home when Biden is in town. no one needs negativity to bring things down.
That's right! Only people that agree with biden should go see him. Anyone who does not agree should be kept out!!
Posted by JWBooth on October 9, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)ninja_man,
Oh believe me, I'm staying home. Thankfully, my class was cancelled because of Sen. Biden's visit. So that's a positive in my book.
While I applaud Sen. Biden for his years of public service, I wasn't the one that plagiarized, made a racist comment, and said "my IQ is higher than yours" in a condescending manner. This is conduct unbecoming for a US Senator and presidential/VP candidate.
Posted by gr8fan on October 9, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)Ninja,
Posted by ninja_man on October 9, 2008 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)Running with a "black guy" as you called him, makes Biden not racist? You're the guy that says you're not racist because you have a black friend or two. People make concessions to become president or to meet other important goals in life. A racist who wants to be president, will make such a concession. And being a racist (if he is) he probably figures someone will assassinate Obama and he will be president even quicker. See you gotta think like a liberal.
so i'm the guy that says i'm not racist because i have a black friend or two? wow, you really know me gr8fan! i get so sick of people talking about someone being racist... all youre doing is fueling the fire, so congratulations... and JW, you applaud biden for his years of public service, but you still insist on focussing on the negative aspect of things. there's good and bad in everyone and everything. why must people just focus on the negative? we are never going to get a president or vice president (or any leader) who hasnt done anything regretful in the past or even the future, it's simply human nature...
Posted by tigersfan on October 9, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)Name one Senator who has been in office and not voted the "correct" way for issues. There isn't one, they all have their reasons as to why they do and say things and we are all human and make mistakes. Like the guy who had the nervous twitch in his foot and was tapping it on the floor in the airport restroom, then boom his arrested (he deserved it but I am trying to make light of the situation). They are held to a higher standard and should be but when they put their foot in their mouth should we really be surprised and hold that against them? I am voting for the future not the past and that is why I focus on what they are going to do for me not what they have done.
Posted by gr8fan on October 9, 2008 at 7:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)Tigersfan,
Posted by Rockchalk on October 9, 2008 at 9:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)I really hate picking at you because of your name, but......A person's past is an indicator of what they will do in the future. Do you want a president that has a "seedy" past based on the Ayers, Wright and Rezco relationships and dealings? It just shows bad judgment and the propensity to do with whom ever, what is in his radical interest, versus the interest of millions of Americans. McCain has to come across more honest and with more integrity to you. You have to believe with what he has been through for his country that he is the one more apt to do what he has to to right the ship. Wouldn't you rather trust someone like that with your future and the future of lil tiger fans everywhere?
You know. a person's associates do reflect on their judgment.
We can't elect someone who is friends with a person who plotted to murder a journalist; plotted to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotted a kidnapping at the 1972 Republican National Convention. Who is that? G. Gordon Liddy who describes himself as an “old friend” of John McCain's; who McCain praised for his “adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great,” said that he was “proud” of Liddy.
One of McCain's campaign advisers in Ohio, Carl H. Lindner Jr. was CEO and a Director of Chiquita Brands which funded the AUC in Columbia, a group which was named a Foreign Terrorist Organization by the U.S. State Department in 2001.
McCain himself sat on the board of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, a far-right conservative organization that supplied arms and funds to paramilitary organizations in Latin America.
Then, of course, there's his VP selection whose husband was a member of the Alaska Independence Party. That group's founder Joe Vogler is quoted as saying "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions" and "the fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government".
Even the Ayers connection comes back to McCain. The board on which both Obama and Ayers sat was for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge,funded by Walter (deceased) and Leonore Annenberg. According to a press release from McCain, Mrs. Annenberg has endorsed McCain. I wonder what McCain thinks about the Annenberg's "terrorist connection"?
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Posted by MichaelH on October 10, 2008 at 12:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)GR8FAN, I would go so far as to say the interest of the "millions of American people" IS radical.
Any of you touting one of the Big 2 are just plain retarded to think that one ticket is going to do what they say and one will not.
You can tell when a politician is lying because their mouth is flapping.
Einstein said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
According to Einstein damn near everyone commenting above is insane.
Posted by StJoeMoe on October 10, 2008 at 6:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)Fricking Obama profited from the fanny mae and freddie mac fiasco - he is a major part of the problem, not a part of any solution -
What true plans or solutions has he offered? What has he ever done to make anyone think he could do anything now?
We really have two mediocre options, and I'll probably not go with Obama because I put a huge percentage of the blame of where we are now on the democrats - just do the research.
I might vote for Pat Paulson. Yeah, he's dead, but he is running again -
http://www.paulsen.com/pat/
Me, I'm tired of lip service. And the spread of wealth has become far too one sided - the common joe can not afford a new car, a new this or that -
A lot of that goes to lawyers and the stupid lawsuits, the EPA, the DOT - "Big Government" - Medical costs, GREED!
Time to clean house -
Posted by MichaelH on October 10, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)StJoeMoe, I am excited to read that others feel it is definitely time for a change. Not an "Obama change", either.
All of you who plan on voting for the lesser of two evils, you know, the same thing we've done for the last who knows how long.
IF YOU DO NOT FEEL STRONGLY FOR EITHER CANDIDATE YOUR'E HINDERING OUR PROGRESS AS AMERICANS BY CASTING A VOTE FOR ONE OF THE BIG 2.
We need to show our government that we would rather "waste" our vote in lieu of democracy and patriotism rather than once again vote for the lesser of two evils.
How pathetic that we as Americans vote against a candidate rather than for one.
That needs to change. If you're going to vote against someone YET AGAIN, this time I beg you to do it out of the Big 2.
The electoral college will take care of our next president but no one will be able to deny our voice when a no name candidate receives a good percentage of the vote.
YOU WANT A CHANGE IN AMERICA? PROVE IT. DON'T VOTE FOR THE BIG 2.
Posted by ninja_man on October 10, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)it's time for OBAMA CHANGE! not the same old crap change that we've had for years now. say what you want, but when OBAMA/BIDEN get elected, you will be eating your words!
Posted by gr8fan on October 10, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)MichaelH,
Posted by apmastrangelo on October 10, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)I can't argue with you! But the lesser of two evils is what I'm shooting for. Nice six degrees of separation Rockchalk. The demos had to come up with some lame associations to compete with a terrorist, a racist Reverend and a slumlord partner. And ninja, if Obiden gets elected, I won't be able to afford to eat my words. All my middle class money will be going toward taxes to pay for all of Obama's social services.
The comments of all are intriguing but I am taking a long careful look at what each candidate is going to do in solving the economic issues our country is facing.
Posted by gr8fan on October 10, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)To this end the choices are not fantastic but differences are distinct. Obama, no matter how you see things, intends to promote many social programs that the money is just not there for while also raising taxes. The idea that tax increases will only be on big money is flawed and ultimately result in a further deepening of the conditions we are now seeing.
It also troubles me to repeatedly hear Obama making the "canned" remarks about how people are hurting, yet not directly addressing what his policies will change.
McCain on the other-hand at least realizes and identifies several specific areas needing immediate attention if things are to be turned around. Housing markets and foreclosures, credit flow, bank liquidity and economic strengthening of the dollar.
There is no magic bullet that I see from either candidate but basic economic principles are clear that government can not raise taxes on any entity, especially business, if you intend to grow a troubling economy in the type of financial crisis our country in.
Nice call, apmastrangelo. Whacking the rich with taxes serves no purpose because in the long run it cuts down business size, so they can make payroll and costs with reduced income. Thus, larger unemployment since they have to get rid of you to make up for their deficit. I also love how Obama keeps saying employers are going to foot the bill for health care. Come on, please hire an economist. More cost for health care to the employer means one thing. Eliminate the employee. The burden has to be taken by the government if your going to socialize health care, and that means we will pay for it anyway. The $5000 credit that McCain proposes is much more sensible. As for the idiocy of saying "McCain will giveth, then taketh away", taxing the health care will affect the avg American $0-900 of the credit. Thats still a $4100 credit, even if you need that much. Please open your eyes people. We can't revolt, so make good choices. Start with eliminating socialized America. Change is not always good. Obama would be in that group.
Posted by ninja_man on October 10, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)your $5000 tax credit that McCain keeps referring to is actually only half true. it's $2500 per person.... $5000 per couple. at the debate on Tuesday he kept saying $5000 for every American... but i don't blame McCain for stretching the truth... he's scraping the bottom of the bucket right now... he knows Obama is running away with this thing.
Posted by apmastrangelo on October 10, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)ninja - Obama while ahead in some races is not exactly running away with anything. You should ask why when the economy is in crisis, home values and foreclosures are at unprecedented levels, and 3/4 of the people say the country is going in the wrong direction, that Obama is unable to show a double digit lead in nearly every state. The answer is simple, while people are dissatisfied they also understand the risk in what Obama wishes do if elected.
Posted by ninja_man on October 10, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)As for the health care issue don't be fooled by either candidate. McCain's plan is far from perfect but allows people a reasonable choice in providing coverage. You might note, and for good reason, Obama refused in the last debate to disclose what penalties his program carries for non-compliance.
gr8fan - you recognize what is going over the head of so many in this election. Business only exists when they can make money. We see what is happening during the current down-turn; imagine what will continue to take place if greater tax burdens are placed on companies and those with the money to expand at their discretion.
well, i was expecting a little more from you than that... but that's ok... you're question to me makes no sense what so ever.. sorry. why doesnt obmama have a double digit lead? well, probably because there are other people in this election running that say they are going to "change" things. many people are blaming bush right now for our current crisis... so all the new candidates are saying they are nothing like bush... therefore everyone is going to get some votes... i'm not saying McCain is a complete idiot, i'm just not voting for him when there is someone better to vote for.
and as far as the fine goes, i honestly have no idea what to think about that. obama did dodge that question and i can't find any facts to read about how much he is going to fine people... so i dont know why he didnt answer that... you can speculate if you choose (which i'm sure many will), but I guess we will have to wait and hear the facts on that issue.
i'm not claiming that Obama is god or the messiah, i'm just supporting him as the next president.
-have a good weekend guys.
Posted by apmastrangelo on October 10, 2008 at 6:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)ninja - The question makes no sense; come-on now look at the history of presidential election in our country. Absolutely respect your position and support of Obama based on how you view his policies. Where we differ is no candidate receives my vote if they can not provide a direct answer to questions. Even if I disagree with the position, it proves to me there is substance in the principles they intend to promote. Something I have not seen in the recent rhetoric Obama has been putting out.
Posted by gr8fan on October 10, 2008 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)Most families can make due with a $416.66 credit per month for health care. Far better than we have now. I was aware it wasn't per person as I have seen McCain's plan and how it is stated, so only one of us was having their truth stretched. Checking back on history ninja, the last two elections, the inventor of the internet, Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerrey in 2004 had larger leads than Obama does at this point. Ut oh, watch out! McCain's got him right where he wants him.
Posted by ninja_man on October 10, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)apmastrangelo - i see your point and respect it... i guess i'm running by faith... maybe that's all we have these days.. since no politician is going to give us a straight answer. but I'll tell you what... you really do make a good point.. if someone can't give me a straight answer then why should i listen to them? i will dig and research for Obama's "fine" on health care... and if i finally find the answer, and it really bothers me, i will reconsider.... because no one should be fined just because they can't truly afford something. seriously, thanks for arguing with me and thanks for letting me argue with you.... that's one of the things that makes our country great!
Posted by apmastrangelo on October 11, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)good times man, good times.
ninja - It is great to have a two way dialogue over important issues.
Posted by greatdepression2 on October 11, 2008 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)The reason it is hard to find a number on what Obama would fine a company exists because there is no exact number. The language of his plan reads something like:
An employer “pay or play” provision that would require an employer to either provide health insurance or contribute toward the cost of a public plan.
So in essence companies must either provide for private coverage or pay into a Medicare type system.
There are many sites covering just this specific issue and I have found those not associated to either candidate are giving necessary insight.
Sorry, but McCains big insurance plan of $5000 per person or couple whatever it may be, is really an acumulative $360 additional billion dollars to the 700 already granted. But McCain fails to mention that half of his insurance plan. The money has to come from somewhere. It will be money that we will be taxed on the following tax year when we file our taxes, so his plan is not exactly a gift now is it. My insurance is just fine. We have a family of five we are paying for and a child who is recovering from cancer, if he takes that away and we have to go else where and repurchase new insurance then what, what does that mean for our child? What about anyone's pre-existing conditions. Where is his thinking people?!?!
Posted by gr8fan on October 12, 2008 at 3:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)greatdepression,
Posted by apmastrangelo on October 12, 2008 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)What? First off, with McCain's plan, you can keep your present insurance, so your child changing plans is not an issue. Secondly, you must be speaking of Obama. Politics 101---Democrats, we also call those, "the liberals" provide social services which they implement large taxes from the people to pay for them. The republicans, or "conservatives" stimulate the economy by less taxation and trying to promote business growth. Next week, please tune in for your next lesson, "How to choose the right candidate---Does your guy show poor judgment by hanging around with terrorists, racists Reverends and convicted felon slumlords?" Thank you and have a good day!
greatdepression2 - With due respect you need to do more homework on what each candidate will do with their health insurance plans.
McCain's plan will not require you to change or go into a different program and provides you with a direct tax credit toward helping you pay for coverage.
Obama's program on the other hand mandates coverage under a variety of specific conditions that will also require employer participation. What also "might" happen under the Obama plan is for companies to change their options in order to meet the "play or pay" provisions. So unless you are in full control over your current plan without employer involvement and solely paying for it yourself, do not think things can not change.
If you truly want to know what will happen under either scenario go to the independent sites on this issue that provide accurate analysis without the political spin.
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