wow the caden blanton case all over again

they allowed comments back on here. Dwight scroggins shouldn't be throwing stones at anyone. dss nor the juvenile office tried to reunite caden's brother's family. he was placed with people he didn't know, and taken from people he lived with all his life. dfs knew, or at least jeff city knew, that there was an allegation against kerns, even a safe exam was performed. another case where dfs drops the ball. as i have said over and over, dfs, the juvenile office as well as the prosecutors office need to be investigated. how many children do we have to loose before something changes, buchanan county has the highest infant toddler death rate due to abuse in northwest mo. u can find this info on dss website. and dwight has only charged this man with second degree murder, just as he did chris kerns. if he would charge additional counts of child endangerment as well as child abuse, these offenders would have to stay in jail longer than 7 years. kerns will be released in december of 2012. caden's voice still hasn't been heard.

i am the sister of the victim i just got a couple of things to say even know it will make my other brothers and sister and family members very mad i do believe he killed our brother i think the charges should be dropped to 1st degree murder and if i was a judge he would get letal injection he took a innocent babys life and his life should be taken too it is a disgrace to have the rathmann family name

i know both sides of the family and i am sick of everyone talking about just the father in this case what about what the mother did.she abused the baby also and i feel that there is more to this case then we all know about at this point.she is know angel by far.i have seen her yell,scream and call the older boys names which is a form of abuse.she has pushed the boys and slapped them in the head,she was just careful not to leave marks that would draw attention to anyone or dfs as abuse.her sister says she thinks the mother is just covering for the father well if that is the case she should be charged with being an acommplus to this childs death.as for the father i am not saying he did or didn't do the terrible thing but i never heard him raise his vice but he did spank the boys on the bottom if he felt they needed it.if he did do this to this baby i feel that something snapped inside him and he didn't realize what he was doing.if anything dfs should be held acountable for leaving this baby in the house because mr.rathmann isn't in that good of health in the first place and being 52 and in bad health and taking care of an 11 year old and a 9year old that is in bad health would take its toll on a health person out long a person in bad heath.oh and by the way the mother has to older chilern that she lost cousted to her parents when they was just babies and she didn't have the 11 year old until she married mr.rathmann and he fight for cousted of him and raised him from the time he was 3 or 4 months old.the only ones that knows what really hppened are the parents and god and one of these days they will have to meet their maker and answer for what they did.MAY GOD BLESS THIS BABY AND IT'S FAMILY BECAUSE THEY NEED IT.

well considering that I know who you are...you have only seen that family twice a year..on christmas and on 4th of july. You don't know what has been going on in that household like the rest of us kids did. You can believe whatever you are told...you don't know the drama or all of the things that we went through. You also turned your back on us kids because of hearsay of what people told you. Did you ever stop to think of how us children might feel. I don't care to see your comment or hear anything you or the rest of your family has to say. You can believe he is innocent if you want but I know the truth. And you have no idea what happened in that house...you didn't live there and you didn't know what really went on. You only knew what he wanted you to know. So have a good night grandma rathmann!

Funny how all the previous comments were removed!! Wonder why? Was it the comment about "not rushing to judgement until all the facts are known"? Was it because of those who were advocating the death penalty for an alleged baby killer? Was it because of those who felt the accused is totally innocent? Unless this was a computer glitch, NP staff.....removing the comments is sophomoric and basically censorship. This sort of thing seems to happen a lot, anymore. I just wish you'd leave the comments alone.

have been on my soap box for four years about the problems with DSS and the Juvenile office. I have the notes, depositions and anything else you may need to investigate and finally get something done. I was afraid another child would die. The prosecutor, DSS, Juvenile office, CASA, and the GAL all have issues with the way caden's case was handled, as well as this one i am sure. the Juvenile court on the recommendation of the above entities gave caden's brother to his father, after they were told he had a drug problem, mr. blanton currently has 3 charges of possession with the intent to distribute manufacture. should they be charged with child endangerment. they were bent on not allowing shane to go back to the only home he had ever known. luckily mr. blanton basically gave shane to us about this time last year, and didn't fight the custody issue. shane spent at least 6 months living in different motels, no clean clothes to go to school etc. we filed for custody as soon as we were able to, and put in that filing that we were afraid for shane's safety, but because false accusations have been used in the past, nothing was done. HOw many children have to be truly abused, mistreated and die before something is done. there are a lot of questions that need to be asked, a lot of digging for the truth that needs to be done. lets get it started.

for your info jenny rathmann this is not grandma rathmann so that goes to see how much you know.you have room to talk because you hanen't been apart of your dad's life for the last 3 or 4 years and you said it was all because of angie and now you are trying to say its all your dad in what happened to this baby. all you know about what went on in this house in the last several years is what tracy told you.i am not saying anyone did or didn't do this.what i am saying is they both are at fault for what happened to this baby because they did not protect him like a good parent would have.SO MAY BLESS YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT TO GET THROUGH THIS TERRIBLE TIME.

okay, lets not start fighting each other, these people will be dealt with in court. my issue and what everyone else's issue should be, is where was dss, where was the juvenile office etc. if the family wants to fight, fight between yourselfs somewhere else please, family issues need to be dealt with in another place besides this forum.

Does anyone know what the phrase "airing dirty laundry" means??? Hmmmmm.......?????

I'd also like to know what it means to be "found quilty in a court of law..."

I've seen almost all of the "LA Law" and "The Practice" episodes, and several movies, so I feel like I'm rather well versed in the law!!! Being proven "quilty" is a new one for me....

Lighten up, Francis!!

pops, just means he is tufted.

Oh.....OK.....I didn't realize that was a function of the court....to "tuft" folks!! Thanks!

They've been "tufting" folks for years! If this guy is guilty and goes to prison, his roomie will tuft him too!

all i am saying is if he did it so be it.the mother isn't any better becaused she beat that baby also she just didn't get the chance to kill this baby before she went to jail.i agree way didn't dss and the juvenile office step in before this baby had to die.i guess tho when you have a family that calls dss one each other eveytime the get mad at one another this is what happenss.

drbjr, nah doesnt happen

Look the hospital must have had just cause to call the athorities in this case and saw something inconsistant with a baby hitting their own head on something and if the baby fell from a high place that would be neglect as well.The hospital must have seen more.Either way it is a sad day when a baby that is defenceless has to die.May he rest in peace.And if Mr Rarthmann is proven guitly by a jury then I would give him the death penalty this is what he would deserve.

he isnt charged with first degree murder, so no death penalty will be involved.

Grandma8445, I'm tired of seeing you justify Mr. Rathmann's actions. Yes, the mother abused the child as well but she was in jail at the time of the child's death. (Don't get me wrong, she needs to be severely punished as well.) The father is the one who killed him. There is a dead child, a defenseless infant, and it sounds like you are trying to downplay his role as the murderer. He is a murderer! Having something "snap" inside of you and make you realize what you are doing does not take away from killing this precious baby!

This entire story makes me sick. As I hold my own 8 week old in my arms, I don't understand how anyone could hurt a baby. Like I said in my previously DELETED post, we need to go back to "an eye for an eye" - maybe it would detour these sick people from committing such heinous crimes. I don't care if it is cruel and unusual punishment. They need to know what this precious, defenseless baby went through. Of course, with our legal system, they'll get a slap on the hand, be out in 4 years and be producing more children.

OK...this may be deleted by NP staff, but to me, it's not "cruel and unusual punishment" to beat a baby killer in the head until he dies. To me....that would be justified.
Perhaps if criminals had to really PAY for their crimes, and not coddled and pampered, they'd stop committing crimes?? Oops....sorry....there I go, thinking logically again! Where's my leftist, liberal, politically correct mode gone????

Well said, pops. I agree it's not cruel to do to a person the same that they have done, but the liberal law says we have to lock up criminals (but not for too long because they'll "change") and give them cable TV and three hot meals a day while they're there. It seems as though the law protects criminals more than the community.

Nothing you said violated the TOS, nor did our previously deleted comments. I would like to know why our comments have been censored.

Geez, jennyrathmann....
I'm not sure you've made your point clearly enough...why are you being so vague in your remarks??!!

Look....I realize there are family members watching this situation closely, including these threads. Perhaps those of you who are so closely aligned with the family and the terrible events should refrain from airing all your "laundry" in the open media????

Jennyrathmann, you might read the TOS above before posting and refrain from the use of expletives. For what it's worth, I don't blame you for being mad about some of the above comments, but cursing will not get your point across - it will get your posts deleted.

oh my..where to begin..first of all the childrens division must ask for removal before removing children..the truth of the matter is that someone should be looking at the juvenile office..the children's division is responsible for ensuring safety, but can't remove? what's up with that? i have had some hotlines and i have called in a few and i know for a fact that they DO NOT call before they come out..there are a bunch of stupid laws that prevent the workers from actually ensuring safety..the workers have no power and must rely on the juvenile office who throws away more paperwork than the act upon...so i ask you, who is really to blame here?

i'm not down playing anything.in my eyes both parents,dss and the juvenile office are at fault for this babys death but the mother is no better then the father just because she didn't kill this baby.she beat this baby badly.his little chest and ribs where bursied along with bursies on his little arms and legs from his mother.i feel they both are at fault for what happened because neither of them protected him.one of these days they both are going to have to answer to a higher power then any of use.i am just sick of her family tring to keep her out of all this.they need to try to look at the fact that she also beat this baby.she just got luck and didn't kill him.they are the ones down playing her role in all this.now there is two other childern out there that don't have either of their parents because of all this evil doings.

I've been seeing several posters in this, and other, threads about this situation. I've seen more than one who KNEW such things were going on. What on EARTH stopped some of you from taking action? I realize you may have tried contacting authorities, and that no one did anything. I can tell you this....if I knew a family member or a neighbor was beating their kids, and no one would take action, I'd take a father that was beating his kids out behind the building, and use a switch on him! Better yet...a 2X4!! As for the mom....any mother who would beat their children...especially a baby...she deserves the same thing. I can honestly say I'd find a way to make sure they would be WAY too fearful to TOUCH those kids after the very first incident. Yeah...I'm PLENTY big enough to back up what I just said. Too many "parents" feel they can treat their kids any way they please....with little or no repercussions. If someone is reading this, and you KNOW something is going on, and no one will help, maybe a group of you need to take matters into your own hands!! Save the kids by making sure their abusive parents are too scared to hurt them anymore!!

this one goes out to the rathmann side of the family, to my grandma aunts and uncles on my dads side i think it was crap for none of u to be there at that funeral today that happened at 1pm....whats the matter u didnt want to see all the crap ur son did to my baby brother? i think just maybe if u would of saw that baby u would of changed ur words would of have changed against him..some family u are...im putting all of this to the side i want JUSTICE for MY BABY BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i am praying to see that they both deserve what is coming to them for the rest of u that had left comments i appreciate everything u said as far as grandma8445 kick rocks

Again, I will say, the childrens division CAN FILE a petition to remove a child on their own, they don't have to wait for the juvenile office, they can even get a doctor or the police to say the child is in danger and have the child removed, they could have admitted the child to the hospital. so lets not feel bad about the children's division.

i am sorry jenny you feel that way.all i was doing was saying what i saw.i feel terrible for what happened to your baby brother.i hope they both get punished several for what they have done to that baby.right now tho i feel the johnson's and rathmann's should pull together to help the other two boys out there that are now without parents and there baby brother get though this terrible thing.MY GOD BLESS AND WATCH OVER YOU AND YOUR WHOLE FAMILY THOUGH THIS TERRIBLE TIME IN YOUR LIFES.

According to MY Bible, forgiveness is a must, but in my opinion, forgiveness for a crime against a defenseless infant would come slowly. The only other thing I can think of to say at this time is, "GOD WILL now protect this baby"
for what appears to be the FIRST time in his Short Little Life. This is so sad, one of my son's and his wife have been trying to have a baby for 10 yrs. and would LOVE it to pieces if they were so Blessed, yet people have Babies and treat them like so much trash, as if they are Nothing.
GOD forgive our selfish wickedness and Bless these siblings who have lost their Little Brother !
Be Still and KNOW that He Is GOD !

I see where it will take the DSS 2ot4 weeks just to find all the information ever recieved on the case .which is pure HOGWASH!!!! It just shows how these so called special services are'nt on the same page.... In this day and age of hightech computers ..one person should be able to handle this in a matter of minutes with the click of a button!!I just hope DSS dosent loose all the evidence about this case in order to to keep any negligence on there part from surfacing

here is what i think should be proposed, when abuse happens, it's a "team" that is supposed to investigate, that consists of, juvenile officer, DSS, detective. one doesn't know what the other is doing, one will accuse the other of not getting them the info, so to cure that, there needs to be a system in these cases where all of the players investigating the abuse can get on the computer, click on the childs name, and see everything the other members of the team have done, what documents they have etc. they should all be able to receive medical documents as well as any other thru an email or on this site, that way no one can pass the buck. all the info would be there at the touch of a button. believe me, no one will get the whole file from dfs or the juvenile office. that is why a bill in the house should be passed taking the worker off the case, and investigating the worker as well as everything else, shane schoeller a member of the house has introduced such a bill. ask that it be supported.

Part of the problem is that DFS, DSS, or whatever they're calling them now, has, in the past, gone overboard in certain cases. I know of one case where "abuse" was reported. There WAS no abuse, but that family very nearly lost their kids. It took a lot of work, a lawyer, and tons of unscheduled "in-home inspections" to satisfy the over-zealous case worker that there was no abuse in the home. I've already told about some other situations. It seems funny to me that there are some situations in which they are heavy-handed and over-zealous, and in others, they don't take action. I can't imagine what the difference is. I wish they'd been even a FRACTION as zealous in THIS case as they were in the ones I've cited. Perhaps a little baby would still be alive.

hmmmmm well meow!! all i have to say is that i dont believe anyone is sticking up for anyone!! that is my father and i dont believe that he murdered that baby....yes i am named after my father but oh well...u might believe what u hear or see...yes i know this is a place for people to make their comments...but im tired of people RUNNING MY FATHER DOWN LIKE HE IS A BAD PERSON!!u dont know my father so shut the hell up!! if it happened it happened!!i have 2 kids of my own and i wouldnt lower myself to that extreme to bet my children but something happened and that house that NOONE WILL KNOW!!besides my FATHER and GOD..but anywase im done saying what i think about this CASE... u all have a NICE GOOD OLD DAY!! LATERZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!

ronnyrathmannjr - "if it happened it happened!!" - your attitude disgusts me. IF your father did this he IS A BAD PERSON, will be found guilty, and will deserve no mercy.