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It's your call, June 3, 2008
by St. Joseph News-Press
Tuesday, June 3, 2008

Ah, youth

I just saw the Democratic National Committee on TV and they claim that the number of voters is up with young people — that the number of young voters has quadrupled since Barack Obama is running. This is a very important factor to me. It is not Barack Obama — he has nothing to do with it. The word is like draft dodgers.

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Know the candidates

I would like to compliment the paper on putting in the biographies of people who are running for office. In the past I have used those biographies to make my choices. And a couple of weeks ago a person called me who was running for lieutenant governor and I didn’t know who he was. And I was able to tell him at that time that I depended on your biography to let me know about the people running and what the issues were. And I want to thank you for that and I hope you keep doing that.

Confused definitions

This is in regard to “Secularism is OK” in Monday’s paper. You seem a little confused in your definitions. You defined San Francisco values with two different definitions, one being pervasive secularism and the other being cultural, social and moral attributes. You also state you are also for the latter definition. I can tell you that most of the people in the Midwest are not for either definition. Based on this country’s long history of having a moral compass, we do legislate morality. Why does the Supreme Court have the 10 Commandments above its bench? Why do we have laws such as thou shalt not steal and bear false witness? Personally, I don’t think our country would survive with either definition that you have applied to San Francisco.

Back to the 1930s

I just wanted to say that my daughter and her six kids have been forced to move in with me because they can no longer afford to pay their rent and buy groceries, all due to the ever-increasing inflation. We literally have resorted to begging for food and other basic necessities like toilet paper and medicine from neighbors and total strangers when things get real bad. I am scared for my grandchildren and myself and for the entire next generation. People, open your eyes. We’re on the brink of another depression. It’s coming. And for those of you who are in denial, wake up!

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Posted by getrealstjoe on June 3, 2008 at 6:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

To the person whose daughter had to move in with her because of the rising prices of all goods these days, just one comment: maybe she shouldn't have 6 kids! Where's the father in this story? Maybe she should have stopped having kids after 1 or 2. I have no feelings for someone who doesn't at least try to take care of themselves and act smartly.

Posted by Rax on June 3, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

getrealstjoe,
YOU BEAT ME TO IT!! It just makes me shake my head when someone calls in like this. Six kids and the parent(s) cannot afford to take care of them. Did the parents think about this BEFORE they had the kids? Does Mom work? Where's the kids' Dad? Does he work? This is exactly the kind of situation that idiot Obama is getting pushing for. Give even more money to these folks who won't take responsibility for themselves. Let us responsible, hard working folks give up more and more to support them. What a joke.

Posted by dalearch on June 3, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

More kids equals more welfare.

Posted by Rax on June 3, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BINGO!

Posted by rush620 on June 3, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I understand the frustration with people who have kids and then cannot afford to take care of them, but the fact of the matter is, the kids are here and they need to be cared for. Yes the parents need to help themselves, but let's face it, some parents just should not be parents period. Which still leaves the issue of what about the children. Why should the children have to suffer because they were born? Unfortunately, there does not seem to be a simple answer except for people to take responsibility for themselves and I think in the "government assisting" society we have created we are still a long way from that. I'm not against giving someone a helping hand to get on their feet, but when they create a lifestyle of it that's when I get a little pissy. Career welfare recipiants is what I'm talking about, not the people who've lost a job, spouse or just having a hard time.

Posted by gocubbies on June 3, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Rush, I agree with you. The kids are here, and unfortunately they are the ones that have to suffer due to lack of parenting. I also feel sorry for the grandmother. She has already raised here kids. As far as career welfare, that's our fault. One thing Clinton did do well when he was in office was passing the 2 years and out rule. Once an individual started collecting welfare they had 2 years to improve their situation and then they were done. Unfortunately the Bush Administration eliminated that rule as soon as they were in office.

I wish the rules would change as far as how much a person gets per child. I feel once you are on the system for each child you have after that you get a reduction of benefits, not a raise. Maybe that will help cut down on the so called "career welfare" recipients.

Posted by rush620 on June 3, 2008 at 11:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Or if there would only be benefits for 2 children. I would think that would put a damper on having 4-10 kids when your unemployed. I know stuff happens, but a time limit and a benefit limit would certainly help.

Posted by Rax on June 3, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind helping people I just don't want to support them! I have a family of my own to support. I should not have to support someone else because they had kids they could not afford, made poor decisions, or won't get off their butts and help themselves. They always have these sad "poor me" stories but the bottom line is they refuse to help themselves. Everyone needs a helping hand but these folks expect others to support them. We are all going through tough times and we are all struggling to make ends meet.

Posted by dalearch on June 3, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK class – today’s math question is:

Sally’s rent is $480 per month and is going up by 20%. She currently has 8 children and receives $60 per month per child in welfare payments. How many babies does she need to squirt out to cover the increase in rent?

Posted by jayhawkbabe on June 3, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The answer to your question, dalearch, is that she won't have to squirt out anymore kids because she can just move to low income apartments, get on housing and live for free. Plus get food stamps and she will get to blow all that welfare money she gets on junk, cigarettes, booze and anything but stuff for her kids.

The system is so broken. It makes me mad that a woman can have four or five kids, get on housing, get food stamps, get WIC, get welfare and medicaid. No wonder there are people that stay on welfare forever. Why go get a real job and try to make something of yourself when you can live for free, get the best food for free and still be able to afford your cigs and beer.

Posted by heritage on June 3, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sadly, poverty is also a cash cow for the city. federal funding is predicated on poverty levels and population, which is why the city is so desperate to find a way to have the last census re-visited. i abhor the concept of nanny state, but there is such a generational poverty problem here........ children have actually never seen any member of their family with a job ( whether by choice or not), as far back as four generations. with the school board about to create a zone of poverty in the elementary level, this situation will only get worse. lets not forget that approx. 2/3 of the babies born last year at heartland were to welfare mothers. its an endless cycle, and the children are the ones who suffer, only to grow up and do the only thing they have ever seen in their pitiful lives.....go on welfare.

Posted by dalearch on June 3, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You think there’s a lot of welfare rats now. If Obama gets elected... hang on to your shorts.

Posted by Mr_America on June 3, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We all know were the money goes once the city gets ahold of it....Booze and desk binges.

Posted by rush620 on June 3, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

HA! Good one Mr_America!

Posted by akm on June 3, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What I can't understand, many of these girls that get pregnant would like to have their tubes tied right after the first, but Medicaid says "No" not until you are at least 23 yrs old or had three children! Also, housing will find emergency shelter for the daughter and 6 kids, unless the mother has done something to get kicked off housing. Like let the babies daddy live in the home without reporting it.

Posted by Rax on June 3, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

akm,
There is an even easier solution, it's called abstinence. If these girls would quit doing what it takes to get pregnant in the first place they (and we members of their support staff) would be a lot better off. If Obama somehow can manage to get elected we are absolutely screwed.... with a capital S!

Posted by akm on June 4, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That's a great solution Rax. But point is most aren't taught it. Let's not just blame the girls. Lots of guys want to be daddy and have no problem letting us support them. 30 years age a friend of mine got pg, had the child and also had her tubes tied. Later met a great guy, married and together they paid to have her tubes untied and had 2 more children.

Posted by Rax on June 4, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am not suggesting it it is just the girls fault, I understand it takes two. The problem is these young boys know they can't get pregnant so they couldn't care less. As far as not being taught....that is just a "cop-out" that people try to use as an easy excuse. If they are old enough to make babies, they're old enough to know better.


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