November 22, 2009
Comments by Faerie
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One more thing LOD, don't call me moron again. You are the one who reveals more and more of your blatent stupidity by your gross misjudgements and rationalizing of how everyone who is in a bad place is so because of their own making. RIIIIGHT. All those people who worked for companies who moved overseas, they should have know better and foresaw what was coming. The widowed women with children shouldn't have married soldiers or better yet you're chiding the dead soldiers for making the decision to defend our country! Good one LOD, just keep digging that karma hole.
On Survey: Many above poverty hurting
Hey LOD,
Who said I was on assistance? Who said I wasn't married and 'reproduced' willy nilly? That would be you making yet another uninformed judgement. Yet again you group everyone all together and don't see the whole picture. Hello? Is there anybody in there? IF she has to pay out all that money for daycare, why do you think having a second job where she'll need MORE DAYCARE will help? And just who is she going to get to watch her kids for free? Like I said before, it's a different era - Gramma's working too! You all who think that everyone who needs assistance is a druggie or someone who made poor choices are missing out on reality! Maybe that single mother is that way because her husband died in Iraq or on the job or in an accident. YOU DON'T KNOW!!
And just a little FYI, LOD - I don't live on assistance. Never needed to thank goodness, but I have family that has. My father is a widower who lost his job and for 6 months couldn't find another one. In those 6 months he lost his house and had to ask for food stamps. He HATED having to ask, but he'd worked for companies for 30 yrs that ended up moving away, he was out everyday looking for anything that he could do. He needed some help to get through for awhile. He'd paid into the system long enough, that I had to convince him it was okay to ask for a little help for him and my brother. I took them in but didn't make enough money to cover 2 extra mouths to feed as I already lived paycheck to paycheck. Everything isn't cut and dried like you'd like.
As of 2005, in Buchanan County a single mother of 2 needed to make between $11 -$12 an hour to make a living wage. Unfortunately, living wage calculations only encompass rent, food, utilities and nessecities, not transportation, childcare or healthcare.
Community Action Partnership of Greater St. Joseph puts on Poverty Simulations, where you get a glimpse of what it's like to be the WORKING poor. Maybe you should give them a call and see if you can participate in one. That might open your eyes.
On Survey: Many above poverty hurting
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Keep judging people based on what you don't know. Maybe those people selling their food stamps did so because they needed to cover their rent, or a utility or fix a car or take a child to the doctor. Unless you've learned how to mindread keep your uninformed bias to yourself and quit being a hatemonger. Try for some compassion and realize that not everyone who needs assistance tries to get it because of people like you. Also remember that just because they don't have a job today doesn't mean that they didn't yesterday and their taxes paid in as well as yours.
For those of you who think that people on assistance need to take a drug test - let me ask you to think with a bit of LOGIC - don't worry, it won't hurt. People need MONEY to buy drugs, obviously something these people don't have, why do you think that everyone on assistance is a druggie???? GET OVER YOURSELVES. People have lost jobs, good paying jobs that they have had for 20-30+ years and where are the opportunities for them to make that same kind of money? NOT HERE. A small percentage of people on assistance are ripping the gov't off. Just as a small percentage of your priests are diddling your children, and a small percentage of your cops are beating a suspect because of the color of his skin, just like a small percentage of nurses are giving leathal doses to elderly patients, just like a small percentage of baptist ministers are visiting prostitutes - SHALL I GO ON???
Maybe I will end up moving to Europe to a country where people come before the ALLMIGHTY DOLLAR!
On Survey: Many above poverty hurting
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Wow LOD, do you ever leave your house and see reality?? I guess not. I LOVE how you think that the people who do get assistance are living high on the hog! Go out and learn some facts why don't you! A single mother of two with zero income can expect to receive $290 in cash assistance & about $350 in food stamps per month. Wow, what a winfall! On the other hand, if she works and has a job making $8.50 an hour for 40 hours a week she'll bring home roughly $1156 after deductions. Depending on the age of her children, she'll need daycare so she can go to work. Depending on the age of the children that can be anywhere from $60-$120 a WEEK. So now she's down to $676-$916 a month. Rent for a two bedroom apartment can be anywhere from $350-$700 a month in St Joseph, we'll say she's lucky and has a place for $500. Now she's down to $176-$416. Utilities will be anywhere from $100-$400, she'll need food for the kids, probably doesn't rent a place with a washer/dryer provided (as most don't come with that) so she'll have to pay to do laundry at the laundry mat, gas and insurance is needed for the vehicle, if she has one or bus fare if not. Then there are the unexpected things, illness, which will be paid for out of pocket because her job doesn't offer health insurance, and any number of other emergencies. Wow, maybe she should just work a little harder huh? The world IS different. Get over it already. We don't have the same kind family structures they did even a couple of decades ago. EVERY able bodied person needs to work in the family to make ends meet. Childcare costs are soaring, along with healthcare costs. But nobody's pay is soaring, is it? Well that is unless you work for some fortune 500 company, but I don't see any of those in this town, do you?
On Survey: Many above poverty hurting
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That sure is a nice quote by Ben Franklin there, however it doesn't apply as much today as it did then. Especially when you have people who work, and work hard at more than one job and STILL can't pay the bills. You've got landlords in this town that think they can charge rents as high as they do in KC (and actually, KC rents are starting to look MORE reasonable) but the jobs here don't pay as much as there, now do they? We have people that lost jobs because of companies moving away and now the only ones they can get pay 1/2 to 1/3 of what their former job did. You can call it living above their means if you want, but they WERE making enough to cover the mortgage, the car payment and college for their kids and unfortuneately credit bureaus don't really care why you can't pay anymore.
For all the naysayers, I've said it before & I'll say it again - yes, you are going to have a small percentage who use the gov't help for all it is worth, but you'll have a small percentage like that ANYWHERE and in ANY circumstance. You can't judge the whole hunk of cheese by one moldy corner.
On Survey: Many above poverty hurting
Flintstone,
You are not alone in your beliefs. My father and I have been questioning why they don't teach cursive ever since my brother's teacher at Pershing said he wasn't completing homework and my father realilzed that was because the teacher wrote it on the board in cursive, but no one had bothered to teach my brother to read it. However, if you follow any news sites, you'll see it's not just our school district, but districts all across the nation that are dropping teaching cursive. They say it is due to the fact that we live in such a technological age; ie: e-mail, texting and typing have all but eradicated handwriting anything. I too am upset about the way they teach spelling. We never know what to work on with my son until after he's brought home the completed test! I say again though, it's not just our district, it's all over.
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For those of you who keep saying that the SJSD used the levy to build the reserves, so they obviously had enough money to run, OBVIOUSLY don't have to pay your own bills. In the world I live in, all of my expenses have been going up - utilties, gasoline, food prices... do you think the school district gets a pass on rising prices? They were REQUIRED to build reserves. Reserves aren't meant to be there so tax payers can have a break for a few years until the district spends them all down on operating costs and then not only needs money for operating but also to rebuild the reserves therefore asking for taxes again.
On Tax support plummets for St. Joseph district
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Pops,
That is the same question I've been asking for the last 6 months to everyone who wants a sunset clause on the levy. If you want an end date to the funding, you must want an end date to the service. With all the petty bickering that goes on in these posts, that logic always seems to get missed.
On Tax support plummets for St. Joseph district
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HEY POPS!!
You want a sunset clause on levy, so does that mean we get a sunset clause on providing the schools?
On Tax support plummets for St. Joseph district
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Wow and double wow. No wonder this town is such a shambles. Hopefully some of you who regularly post here don't actually engage in anything outside of your homes. Sometimes the deftness of you really makes me sad. First nobody wanted the levy because it was too much and didn't have a sunset clause, now the excuse is 'it's not enough and they'll have to ask for more later'. It's kinda like a the response to a question about poverty I heard..when asked what kinds of things can be done to make a difference and help end poverty, a man said 'they could fix up their house and make their yard look nice,' referring to the poor. Some of you have nothing constructive to add! You argue amongst yourselves and I think some of you actually post things just to get the others riled up. If you are an accurate representation of this community, what a sad future is in store! Maybe instead of being devisive and contrary just because, posts should actually be read for their 'content', something learned in English class (in public schools). When actual valid points are made from either side, they are immediately dismissed and debated with something that doesn't even pertain to the point made. I have followed many of these threads regarding this issue. I have asked numerous questions, using logical senarios and am never responded to due to not rising to the petty back-and-forth. Let's do something constructive here people.
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