November 21, 2009
Comments by apmastrangelo
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sense - I can understand and appreciate your position. Unfortunate as I do think we want to see the same things happen in the district but our approaches differ too greatly. My views might have been more in line with yours had the BOE in fact shown progress in a community based long range plan. They did not do so, further losing any degree of credibility by deciding a sunset provision as sufficient alternative in resolving issues. In my opinion, at that moment it was clear the decisive changes needed for this district were not going to happen in a timely manner and would only materialize if facing the reality of hard alternatives.
We now can only wait and see how things unfold. Having observed similar situations over more years than I like to admit to, the state of affairs created will not evolve into the best and desired scenario; hope I am proven wrong.
On A resounding yes on school levy
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heritage - interesting you bring up almost complimenting sense on new found control under a new pseudonym. I came close to doing the same thing after the election when the following revelation was made by her in the 5November NP article "Fewer voters turn out 2nd time"
sense November 5, 2009 at 2:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"apm and John are correct, I knew it during the campain, that is why I attacked the argument so much. I did this because I also know we needed the levy to pass. Where we find outself is where the world was after WWI. The war ended but did not address the problems in Europe, the problems led to WWII. We have the levy passed, however, proper funding, long term goals and getting the commmuinity involved still linger and if not addressed and sooner than better we very much will be heading to WWII...."
Found the admission striking more so because it acknowledged her argument was based on gaining support for the levy and not addressing the real issues plaguing the district.
Whether sense or apple, it is clear she is either unwilling or unable to accept that some view this subject as more than a financial matter, with it essential for the BOE to demonstrate it would move forward with acceptable solutions prior to, and so, appropriate funding could be established.
By now you would also think one would know how petty and immature attacking others for their position makes you look.
On A resounding yes on school levy
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An example of one more page being turned in the transition of this area. Predicted change of downtown is coming from such efforts one block at a time.
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pops - You and I seem to agree over issues about 50% of the time so imagine we are not that far apart on many things.
The problem I have with the "accident victim" analogy is simply that circumstances were not created by accident. Choices were made, and yes, while it is possible to effect change by things like replacing board members, historically too much time will lapse before the damage can be repaired.
You are correct, the people have spoken but should this translate into nothing more than the people moving on because the district has their money, the community will not see the progressive changes so many claim to want.
On Fewer voters turn out 2nd time
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sense - Reasonable to conclude such an approach but considering all aspects of what the district faces the short term stabilization may come with the longer term price of not being able to correct the core problems and perpetuating what has allowed various situations to exist for too long a time.
On the one hand it is great that community saw fit to provide the district necessary funding to sustain itself. On the other hand, should this begin nothing more than another 5 year cycle of that previously seen, no one should take comfort in what has and will be taking place.
On Fewer voters turn out 2nd time
Liderien - So "your" point? "There are a lot more establishments that are not."
If they are not working to be compliant under current regulations this added requirement will not change their conduct. The solution is enforcement measures as requiring someone to have a license will still not equate into compliance.
On City Council approves alcohol license measure
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heritage - Exactly! this is the same situation the district put itself in with the original levy. The next 12 to 24 months will become critical in how the 6 million dollars of annual revenue is put to use. After that, and more importantly, is the question of how the district will justify their request for additional funding at what I predict will be the 2 year interval.
Patches on worn out inner-tubes do not last long and why the forethought of some like yourself, Mr. Courter, and insideout, was deserving of greater consideration.
On Fewer voters turn out 2nd time
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The community saw fit to restore funding in this manner and now it is also our responsibility to ensure it accomplishes something more than it did in the past.
Too much is at stake for things not to change.
On A resounding yes on school levy
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Liderien - Beg to differ; do you think for one instance any reputable individual or company is going to jeopardize their liquor license by just throwing anyone behind the counter without ensuring they know what is and is not permissible.
The new requirement is not going to change how those doing the selling conduct themselves. If they are diligent now they will remain that way and if they run a haphazard operation that is not going to change either.
Just like anything else, when you want to have laws obeyed it takes "enforcement".
On City Council approves alcohol license measure
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As in this case some choices are are difficult. If the community wishes to truly see a change for the good in what needs to happen for improving the school district a vote of no is necessary.
Only then will a clear message be given to the BOE that lip service is no longer acceptable and they must with good faith not only involve but listen to what the community wants to happen.
On Voter turnout expected to dip from April election
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